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Komentāri (41)
simpsons 10.07.2012. 23.24
After the article in FT I will view Hudson and Sommers as petty and bitter liars. Not only they make misleading/wrong statements in the article, they lie also in comments to the article.
Sommers writes ‘…I never provided counsel to the head of Harmony Center, and always rejected their attempts to link us as “their” advisors. That said, an independent group, RTFL, had us produce an economic program, which was published by Harmony Center…’
Saskaņas Centrs website still contains letter written by Hudson and Sommers, saying “We are satisfied with our cooperation in making the “Latvia Renewed 2010 Report” with the Concord [Harmony] Center and look forward to continue engaging this economic policy production.” So much for the economic program for and independent group!
In 2010 Saskaņas Centrs proposed an alternative budget with 12% budget deficit. After Saskaņas Centrs got nowhere with the economic program written by Hudson and Sommers and the related budget, one could have understood their negative attitudes.
However, since then Latvia experienced 2 years of economic growth. The professors still cannot admit that they forecasts were wrong. Hudson and Sommers prefer to live in la la land, where ills of spending binge are cured by more spending.
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lindapastare > simpsons 11.07.2012. 09.53
The reason why Hudson and Sommers are advocating increased spending is the fact that they are from USA – its whole policy is to fix everything with more money. That is why they will try to neglect any positive effect of austerity and cuts in spending. If one such country flourishes – other american politicians might be asking similar approach for their own financial issues. But I doubt that could work for them for the USA is the etalon country of spending too much :) Their debt is never to be paid.
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Aivars Laicāns > simpsons 12.07.2012. 14.40
Surely this is no surprise – Hudson & Sommers are frauds, pure and simple. They are writing that they advised the prime minister? Now come on – why would we get economic advice from historians?
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dafri 10.07.2012. 19.01
Oh .. Come on! This article is so wrong that I do not know where to start. Is this how student’s are being taught at your school? Shouldn’t the methodology been taken into account? Come on, one should open the bloody methodological note which goes with Eurostats Crime statistics. I quote:
–START—The data are taken from information recorded or reported
by the police. Comparisons of crime levels based on the
absolute figures would be misleading, since they are
affected by many factors, including:
• different legal and criminal justice systems
• rates at which crimes are reported to the police
and recorded by them
• differences in the point at which crime is
measured (for example, when reported to the
police, on identification of suspects, etc.)
• differences in the rules by which multiple
offences are counted
• differences in the list of offences that are
included in the overall crime figures
For these reasons, direct comparisons of crime levels in
different countries should be avoided.—END —-
Please do reread the last sentence! Is this academic excellence and prudence one may expect?
There’s even more – let’s say UK, which author claims not have access to stats to –
In Britain, an affray is considered a violent crime, while in other countries it will only be logged if a person is physically injured.
There are also degrees of violence.
Some more – e.g. while the UK ranks above South Africa for all violent crime, South Africans suffer more than 20,000 murders each year.
For me both – original article and this blog post is wrong, unsubstantiated and plainly reminds me of childish bickering rather than serious academic approach.
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Dzintars > dafri 10.07.2012. 20.41
@ Kadrs
1) Using data is better than not using data.
2) Data may be imperfect – a) I indicate that when I act ‘surprised’ about the allegedly high crime rate in Sweden and b) sometimes we just have to sue what we have. GDP per capita is a good example – we know there may problems with eg differences in the size of the grey economy; still the data tells a story and one close to the truth.
3) The authors of the FT piece have clearly not looked up this data, which is may main problem: Their allegations are purely driven by prejudice, which I happen to consider seriously problematic.
4) This is not meant to be an academic piece – it is a blog! – to you it is childish bickering; I think it is serious when several unsubstantiated allegations are splashed over the pages of a major newspaper as the FT – and at least I have dealt with it with the data available.
5) The development in Latvian data over the years should show consistency (same kind of measurement etc) so that numbers going up or down should be reasonable trustworthy – and I use such data to show that there has been no surge in crimes in general.
PS It is not that data is not available for the UK; rather it is divided between England, N Ireland, Wales and Scotland – as you must have noticed when you looked at it yourself?!?
Thanks for your response but I think the attack on me is way out of proportion.
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dafri > dafri 11.07.2012. 17.01
Consistency –
Yep and seems you’ve taken into account the changes in criminal law over the time as well. :)
Is there any useful data in the post? –
Let me note a particular reason on why there is no UK data – England & Wales, Scotland and NI are operate separate jurisdiction, thus there is an understanding that you can’t mix apples and pears, which seems to be perfectly OK in this blog. But hey there’s been worse – someone once made a chart to point out that decrease of pirates is linked with a global warming, so anything goes.
BTW .. the chart regarding police officers is misleading as well – e.g. in 2009 within the police there was an organisation called Apsardze (effectively business arm), not to mention other inefficiencies in the police force. It doesn’t give an indication on how many front-line policemen are available and on the streets.
The good thing is obviously that high unreported crime rate increases GDP :)
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loptik 10.07.2012. 16.58
Some comments here are a bit odd. So, a country experiences a significant drop in drunk driving… That’s a bad sign – underreporting. So, a rise would be a good sign? What would be a good sign? With regards the Hudson/Summers article – it is simply a disgrace. It is biased, it cherry-picks facts, it has no analysis to the extent that it is not worth writing anything – it is clear that authors are driven by faith and political agenda. Discussing something with them is like trying to convince a mormon preacher. Does it makes sense to even try? And it is a pity, but it simply characterizes the trend in prostitutization (hope there is such a word) of the profession in the US.
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Vladimirs Lavrenovs > loptik 10.07.2012. 18.02
I think the profession in the US is high-jacked by a certain type of world view persons. We have to admit that in US medicine, law, management and engineering is way more competitive than economics.
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mariam 10.07.2012. 12.04
Saprotams, ka Hadsons un Sommers savā raktā arī vispārina, pārspīlē un izmanto kādus stereotipus, tomēr – tas raksts ir viens no jēdzīgākajiem un vispusīgākajiem, par situāciju Latvijā, ko man izdevies rietumu presē lasīt (es gan nevarētu teikt, ka dikti daudz būtu šai virzienā lasījis).
Piekrītu, ka kriminālo situāciju varbūt ar taupība un t.s. konsolidācija tik tieši nav iespaidojusi, – tur protams, klāt nāk mentalitāte, kas veidojusies gan padomju, gan neoliberālisma – postpadomju deviņdesmitajos un arī treknajos gados.. bet, tas, ko abi šai rakstā kritizētie autori rakstījuši savā rakstā par taupītāju politikas kļūmēm, tam visumā var piekrist. Arī to, ka citām valstīm šāds paraugs īpaši noderēt nevar, it seviški, ja tās ir lielāka izmēra – nelielo Baltijas valstu ekonomiskās emigrācijas viļņus labklājīgās rietumu (pārsvarā Eiropas) valstis spēj absorbēt, ar masu emigrāciju no Grieķijas vai Spānijas tas tā nebūtu iespējams.
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Signija Aizpuriete > mariam 10.07.2012. 15.16
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Nav viss ideāli pat ES ‘kodola’ valstīs:
France Telecom has been placed under formal investigation for alleged workplace bullying linked to a spate of suicides at the company, along with two top former executives.
The action against the company follows a judicial investigation into a restructuring programme that unions claimed triggered 35 employee suicides in 2008 and 2009.
France Telecom faces staff suicides probe
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5bc72bd2-c77a-11e1-a850-00144feab49a.html
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simpsons > mariam 10.07.2012. 22.38
Amerikāņu profesori raksta, ka pēc tam kad policija apspieda protestus pret konsolidāciju, un pret slimnīcas slēgšanu, latvieši SĀKA emigrēt.
– It kā pirms tam nebūtu braukuši prom!
– Saskaņā ar Hazāna datiem, pirms krīzes emigrēja vairāk nekā tagad.
– Tas, ka policiju sauca atbrīvot Bauskas tiltu pār Mūsu (Via Balica), nevis apspiest protestus, ir sīkums.
– Vēl sīkāk ir, ka Bauskas slimnīca netika slēgta, bet gan samazināts pakalpojumu klātsts.
– Par to, ka 13. janvārī cilvēki protestēja pret AAA valdību, nevis pret konkrētu izdevumu samazināšanu daži rakstīja augstāk.
Vienā rindkopā 5 (!) kļūdas. Ja kādam šāds raksts liekas jēdzīgs, tad uz priekšu, un galvenais nedomāt.
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Signija Aizpuriete > mariam 10.07.2012. 22.50
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No malas jau Latvijas veiksmes stāstu nespēj novērtēt, gadās – bet, vai tāpēc satraukties? Eiro tiks ieviests, Latvijas zemīte max izpārdota –
pilnīga moretenizācija/’full moretenisation’ īstenota:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j3S9A7NJNs
p.s.
Kad vienreiz beigsies tā mītu/stereotipu atmaskošana – un sāksies konsolidācijas ‘veiksmes’ stāsta un tā īstenotāju slavēšana?
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arturs_kucs > mariam 12.07.2012. 16.53
Agreed – just read the full article on his blog, and I thought it was quite fair. This paragraph in particular is worthy of note (I’m thankful for commentators who have a wide enough frame of reference to note the financial classes’ free lunch and parasitic function):
“One must also note that Latvia’s options are circumscribed by the limitations imposed by Article 123 of the EU treaty. This removes currency autonomy and domestic credit creation for national development. The treaty locks countries like Latvia into an embrace of private credit markets that forces governments to pay rents to bankers rather than financing their own development where possible. What additionally holds production back more than anything are regressive tax policies that place Latvia’s tax burden on labor. Thus, this makes labor expensive, preventing advantages that could accrue from lower labor costs. Meanwhile, speculators get a free ride on taxes.
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Sanšains 10.07.2012. 11.55
Vai tā tomēr nav sofistika? Hansens uzbūvējis veselu rakstu, kas balstīts uz tikai vienas rindkopas kritiku, un kam it kā būtu jāatspēko viss Hadsona & Somersa raksts.
Kāpēc Hansens neatspēko arī citus konkrētos argumentus?
Un ar “vainīgo” rindkopu arī ir īpatnēji. Hansens gluži pamatoti ķeras klāt “Financial Times” rakstam, jo tas parādījās pirmais, 21. jūnijā.
Šeit rindkopa no “Financial Times”:
“Why have so many left Latvia if it is such an economic success, with such popular support for austerity as the advocates claim? Birth rates fell during the crisis – as is the case almost everywhere austerity programmes are imposed. Only now is Latvia seeing the social effects of austerity. It has among Europe’s highest rates of suicide and of road deaths caused by drink driving. Crime is high because of prolonged unemployment and police budget cuts. There is less accessible, lower-quality education and there is a soaring brain drain alongside blue-collar emigration.”
Labi, te tiešām var piesieties.
Bet 8 dienas vēlāk – 29. jūnijā – Hadsons ir publicējis IZVĒRSTU šā raksta versiju, kurā attiecīgā rindkopa izskatās mazliet citādi:
“Why have so many left Latvia if it is such an economic success as the advocates claim? Latvia experienced the full effects of austerity and neoliberalism. Birth rates fell during the crisis – as is the case almost everywhere austerity programs are imposed. It continues having among Europe’s highest rates of suicide and of road deaths caused by drunk driving. Violent crime is high, arguably, because of prolonged unemployment and police budget cuts. Moreover, a soaring brain drain moves in tandem with blue-collar emigration.”
http://michael-hudson.com/2012/06/lativa-no-austerity-success-extended/
“It CONTINUES having among Europe’s highest rates of suicide and of road deaths caused by drunk driving” nevis “It has among Europe’s highest rates of suicide and of road deaths caused by drink driving”.
“VIOLENT crime is high” nevis “Crime is high”.
Šādi formulētam tekstam arī Hansens, šķiet, neatrastu, kur piesieties, un līdz ar to… Hansenam nāktos atspēkot citus argumentus, kas, protams, būtu grūtāk. Turklāt Hadsons to acīmredzot nav papildinājis Hansena kritikas iespaidā, jo tā taču ir parādījusies tikai tagad.:)
Man nav skaidrs, kāpēc šie divi teksti atšķiras – vai “Financial Times” ir atļāvušies īsināt un rediģēt oriģinālo tekstu, vai arī Hadsons un Somerss tekstu ir papildinājuši un rediģējuši VĒLĀK.
Tomēr, manuprāt, Hansens nerīkojas adekvāti un īsti godīgi. Var norādīt uz kādu neprecizitāti, arī kritizēt to, tomēr jāspēj atspēkot būtiskākie argumenti, vai tad ne tā?
P.S.
Hansens gan līdzīgā veidā atrastu, kur piesieties arī izvērstajam rakstam, jo tā virsraksts nožēlojamā kārtā satur “būtisku” kļūdu – “Lativa No Austerity Success”. LATIVA, nevis Latvia.:)
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snjuu > Sanšains 10.07.2012. 12.19
“Hansens uzbūvējis veselu rakstu, kas balstīts uz tikai vienas rindkopas kritiku”
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Liekas, ka par pārējo ir solīts papļāpāt “Later…”.
PS. Ja džeki spēj vienā rindkopā sabāzt kopā tik daudz bulšita (nepatiesu apgalvojumu), tad īpaši nekas cits neatliek…
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Signija Aizpuriete > Sanšains 10.07.2012. 12.37
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LATIVA – LATVĀNIJA – ?
”(..)Saeimas pieņemtie likumi diemžēl veicina izlaupīšanu. Tā kā pēc gadiem divdesmit dzīvosim izcirtumā, ko ieskauj bedres. Jā, vēl augs latvāņi, un tad es nezinu, kā pareizi saukt mūsu valsti – Latvānija vai Latvija,» teicis Kalviņš”
http://www.db.lv/razosana/mezsaimnieciba/kalvins-pec-gadiem-divdesmit-dzivosim-izcirtuma-ko-ieskauj-bedres-248271
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‘ Apkarošanas programma beigusies – latvāņi palikuši ‘
http://www.delfi.lv/news/national/politics/apkarosanas-programma-beigusies-latvani-palikusi.d?id=42497746
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snjuu > Sanšains 10.07.2012. 13.09
Var jau būt, ka FT ir slikti “apcirpis” rakstu, tomēr daži apšaubāmi apgalvojumi no garākās versijas:
1) Latvians strongly protested austerity. On January 13, 2009, – pamatsaukļi bija citi
2) Violent crime is high, arguably, because of prolonged unemployment and police budget cuts. – korelācijas nav, un “high” sanāk slepkavības, kuru skaitam ir tendence samazināties (Hansens: “Unpleasant but actually, with 109 homicides in 2009, the 3rd lowest since independence (2010 and 2011 record even lower numbers)”)
3)”It CONTINUES having…” – jau atkal džeki nesavelk kopā ar savu pamatargumentu “austerity doesn’t work” (Hansens: “What exactly is the supposed link between deaths caused by drunk-driving on the one hand and austerity on the other??? Beats me…”)
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Cita lieta, ka Sommerss un Hadsons taupības politiku apskata plašākā “neoliberālisma” kontekstā un kritizē LR ekonomisko politiku kopš 1993. gada. Saistībā ar “nedarbojošos neoliberālismu” šiem droši vien būtu bijis labāk apskatīt vēl “neoliberālāko” Igauniju.
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Sanšains > Sanšains 10.07.2012. 13.26
Par 13. janvāra notikumiem. Vai tomēr viens no iemesliem (vismaz ieganstiem) nebija taupības pasākumi? Cita lieta, ka vēlāk uz to visu atskatoties, diezgan pārliecinoši šķiet pieņēmumi par “ārējo spēku” faktora esamību.
Savukārt, Igaunija, protams, izskatās labi uz MŪSU fona – mēs, papildus “neoliberālismam” vēl arī paši esam sastrādājuši visādas aplamības. Bet vai Igaunija tiešām ir īsts “sekmju stāsts”? Nezinu, neesmu tik kompetents, lai spriestu.
Es drīzāk labprāt izlasītu kādu izskaidrojumu Polijas sekmēm tieši pēdējos, krīzes gados, par ko pavirši ir dzirdēts. Komplektā ar komentāru par to, ka Polija laikam gan neraujas uz eiro zonu.
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Dzintars > Sanšains 10.07.2012. 13.31
Good detective work! And I mean it!
But even with ‘… CONTINUES having… ‘ re the suicide rate I would have to ask: What is the link to austerity?
And the official data does not support that violent crime is high here (except for homicides, as I argue in my piece).
And no offense to Michael Hudson’s homepage , which I am sure, has many readers but the version that appeared in the FT (and it was in the printed edition) reaches many more people – and with faulty and flawed arguments/allegations.
Lativa… :-) – I would have cruised right past that one… :-)
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Sanšains > Sanšains 10.07.2012. 14.23
But even with ‘… CONTINUES having… ‘ re the suicide rate I would have to ask: What is the link to austerity?
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Taupības pasākumiem (austerity) varbūt arī nav tieša sakara ar pašnāvību skaitu. Bet krīzei vispār gan varētu būt:
“Valsts policijas Rīgas reģiona pārvaldes Kriminālpolicijas priekšnieka vietnieks Andrejs Grišins Latvijas Radio apstiprināja, ka pašnāvību skaits ir pieaudzis un Rīgā esot arī atsevišķi gadījumi, kad cilvēks nolēmis izdarīt pašnāvību, jo nav spējis izpildīt finansiālās saistības.”
15.12.2008.
http://www.tvnet.lv/zinas/kriminalzinas/289958-ekonomiska_krize_veicinajusi_laupisanu_zadzibu_un_pasnavibu_skaitu
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Dzintars > Sanšains 10.07.2012. 14.39
In all fairness I do write in the piece that the increase in suicide rates from 2007 (no crisis) to 2009 (full crisis) could very well be a function of austerity/crisis. But the LEVEL of suicides is not austerity-related and the level has always been high in Latvia, although, as I write, it has come down considerably.
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Sanšains > Sanšains 10.07.2012. 14.48
Morten Hansen –
Jā, taisnība.
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snjuu > Sanšains 10.07.2012. 15.04
“Vai tomēr viens no iemesliem (vismaz ieganstiem) nebija taupības pasākumi?”
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Par iemesliem vēl daļēji var mēģināt runāt, jo Godmaņa valdība bija uzsākusi šo to darīt, bet drīzāk tomēr ir runa par jau ‘treknajos gados’ sākto TP un pielīdzināmo politisko spēku nīdēšanas kampaņas turpinājumu, kam daži piemeta klāt dažas pagalītes (ar pavisam čābīgiem rezultātiem). Būtībā gan TAUPĪBAS PASĀKUMI TIKAI TAD (pēc Godmaņa valdības krišanas 2 mēn. vēlāk) arī sākās…
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Signija Aizpuriete > Sanšains 10.07.2012. 15.11
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Nekādas Saeimas izmeklēšanas komisiju nav vajadzīgs dibināt – ja Mortens veicis izmeklēšanu, tad skaidrs – ne prihvatizācijai, ne denacionalizācijai, ne konsolidācijai nekādas saistības ar Latvijas tautas dilšanu (depopulāciju) nava…..
Tas tur – attīstītajās ES valsts tikai novērojams:
Staff suicides
Between the beginning of January 2008 and April 2011, more than 60 France Telecom employees committed suicide,[7] some leaving notes blaming stress and misery at work. In October 2009, the wave of suicides led former Deputy CEO Louis-Pierre Wenes to resign under trade union pressure, to be replaced by Stephane Richard.[8][9] Faced with repeated suicides, the company promoted Stephane Richard to chief executive officer on 1 February 2010, while Didier Lombard will remain as chairman.[10]
The suicide rate among France Télécom’s 102,000 domestic employees is 15.3 per year, compared with an average of 14.7 suicides per 100,000 in the French population as a whole,[11] which shows a slight fluctuation in statistics for suicide.
France Télécom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_T%C3%A9l%C3%A9com
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Vladimirs Lavrenovs > Sanšains 10.07.2012. 18.12
There is a body both in case of homicide and suicide. The difference is that one needs investigation, and hopefully successful for the police department, but the other requires nothing. So are these numbers separable in FSU?
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dace_re > Sanšains 10.07.2012. 19.09
Zviedrijā statistiku veido visi reģistrētie noziegumi, iesk. mazas zādzības utt.
vei pie mums visu tik rūpīgi reģistrē? vai negadās, ka iesaka nerakstīt iesniegumu? un vai visi cietušie griežas policijā? ne vienmēr – te arī statistikas “ticamība”
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info 10.07.2012. 11.30
You must be new in Latvia to not know that Latvians very often do not report crimes because they don’t trust that it will be of any use.
You simply confuse correlation with causation. It is the same as saying that unemployment has decreased slightly, so it means that austerity is working, right? It doesn’t say anything about how much unemployment would decrease if a different policy were applied.
The same goes for suicides or homocides. Latvia is becoming more civilized country due to EU membership and a lot is done to successfully deal with these problems but the rate of improvement is too slow. It is much less than were expected by all.
It is clear that current unemployment and austerity measures play a great role in slowing the rate of integration. Drunk driving is also down because people in general drive less because they have no money for gas. But it could also be a sign that police is not as effective anymore. Less than 1% of drunk drivers are actually busted by police. It is hard to know actual situation without more studies.
And comparison with 1993 is absurd because you are essentially saying that if the situation is not as bad as it was after breakup of the USSR then it must be good.
So, basically you redefining success.
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Dzintars > info 10.07.2012. 11.51
I think you are trying to introduce YOUR interpretation of causality: The numbers don’t tell your preferred ‘truth’. What can be wrong? Ah – austerity causes less trust in the police, thus fewer crimes to be reported although many more are committed. Prove it!
Of course some crimes are not reported (and this happens in all countries) but, again, where is the evidence to say that this, contrary to what the data says, is a crime-infested place?
It would be nice if suicides and homicides would decrease due to EU membership/Latvia becoming more ‘civilized’ as you call it. I am not so sure of that causation but when you say that ‘the rate of improvement is too slow. … less than expect6ed by all’ I must disagree – most of us never saw Latvia ‘transformed’ that fast at all.
I am – read the text – not saying that the situation (re murders) is good now because it is (much) better than in 1993 but I am stating that it is much better, which it is!
And I just don’t see your point on ‘redefining success’?!?
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info > info 10.07.2012. 12.13
I have compared the rate of progress of many post-soviet countries. There are clear winners like Slovenia and some basket cases like Ukraine. All the data shows that Latvia economically clearly could do much better than it is doing right now.
And if you start with the Soviet time before the breakup of the USSR the rate of progress becomes even more questionable. There is no way to avoid the fact that the breakup was steep downfall that could be partially avoided with better policies. Ironically Latvia is still clinging to some of these misguided notions due to fear from Russia.
As for Latvian people experiencing progress – is it an individual question? I think that even polls say that most people in Latvia are quite negative about current progress.
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Dzintars > info 10.07.2012. 13.12
I fully agree on Slovenia – the richest eastern European country to enter the EU. Its GDP per capita is a lot higher than Latvia’s and it has also surpassed a western European (semi-)failure such as Portugal. If, by Ukraine, you mean anything but a winner, then we also agree there.
And I might agree with you with respect to Latvia’s economic performance (GDP per capita) compared to many structural indicators. The latter also seems to indicate that GDP per capita should be better/higher (I mean, why is Latvia poorer than Lithuania?) – but does this indicate future catch-up or is there something ‘wrong’ in Latvia not captured by the data?
As for Latvians and the polls I shall allow myself the following pure prejudice: To me it seems that here the glass is always half-empty…
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simpsons > info 10.07.2012. 21.50
As regards statement that Latvians do not report crimes committed against them, it might be only correct regarding petty crime. (I do not think that all stolen mobiles and bikes are reported in Paris or Rome either.) However, if Karuna is implying that Latvians do not report serious crimes, then I have to wonder which social group she is belonging to? The majority of people would report stolen car, break-in, robbery at gun/knife point; injuries are reported by hospitals.
I was bit surprised that the crime levels in Latvia are average for EU. However, the overall levels are influenced by many historical factors. Impact of austerity can be better determined, not by comparisons with Ukraine and Slovenia, but with Latvia itself. In 2011 the overall crime and also numbers of serious crimes increased by 2% over 2010, i.e. no discernible negative effect of austerity on the crime levels.
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info > info 11.07.2012. 13.37
It should have been obvious that I was talking of underreporting of pety crime. It makes no sense that Latvia has more violent crime than in the rest of the EU but much lower levels of less serious crimes. As for increase of only 2%, I was actually expecting considerable fall in this level (since Latvia is part of the EU and certain convergence is expected). The relatively static result is prime proof that current policies are not effective.
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Signija Aizpuriete 10.07.2012. 11.00
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‘(..)And it is all caused by austerity, you know! ‘
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Stereotypes of ‘mortenisations’/austerity:
‘ Vīķes-Freibergas jaunais auto izmaksās 80 000 latu ‘
http://www.tvnet.lv/zinas/latvija/427121-vikes_freibergas_jaunais_auto_izmaksas_80_000_latu
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js 10.07.2012. 10.39
Morten, thanks a lot, well done! You really show well that some of the assumptions in the discussions on the crisis in Latvia are not properly researched at all.
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janazakovica 10.07.2012. 10.04
cik intresanti hansenam vai bij.parex sluhai kokinam maksaa LU piederosaa stoholmas skola par so un citu mulkibu nesanu letticigajiem studentiem kas samaksajusi macibu maksu 5-6000 euro par macibu gadu.
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@Marta Zariņa > janazakovica 10.07.2012. 10.53
Tu tak pats skolā neesi gājis, kā Tu vari zināt kas ir muļķības un kas nav?
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janazakovica > janazakovica 10.07.2012. 11.58
TO TOOMS redzejaam tevi tom praida pidaru gajiena..redzams ka jau esi izglitojies pie viniem stingri..dibens laikam jau lupataas no vinu skolas.
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